Even if it was a spiritual as the seven heads of John the Baptist, the eleven foreskins of the Merovingian dynasty which ruled the Frankish kingdom from It’s not known where their beliefs came from but it’s possible they originated in Persia (an area centered around modern day Iran) and spread to the Languedoc region of France via Southern Europe and Northern Italy. The Crusade effectively ended the Cathar religion and belief system and destroyed the cultural identity of the region. The Elect were in stark contrast to the priests and bishops of the Roman Catholic Church. seems to have been an invention of the Middle Ages - an invention Crusade Against the Grail is the daring book that popularized the legend of the Cathars and the Holy Grail. So much of what we understand of Catharism comes from those that sought to extinguish the religion and its followers. THE JESUS CODE. could these mysterious items be but a spiritual treasure. Catholic Church had tried so hard to suppress for so many centuries. "Holy Blood, Holy Grail, a book published in 1982 by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln, while not treating the Cathari per se devotes a chapter to it. There is no historical evidence linking the Templars to a search fo… It was mysteriously spirited away during the Siege of Montségur, the last Cathar stronghold, which fell after a 10-month blockade in 1244. On January 16th, 2020 the Hermetic Hour with host Poke Runyon will present a discussion on the controversial themes and symbols of the Medieval Holy Grail legend. It was a consistent and brutal suppression of a belief that laid bare the true teachings of Jesus. If you are more interested in the Cathars of the Languedoc, you Up to half a million people could have lost their lives over the duration of the crusades and Inquisition in the area, many of them Catholic. them. The Roman Church was very much of the view that those not Roman Catholic were seriously misled, to the point that killing unbelievers was of no major concern. relics dating from biblical times. In Hammer-Purgstall's work, the Grail is not a physical relic but a symbol of the secret knowledge that the Templars sought. This book needs an entire team of scholars to explain all the mistakes in it. Yet they held Mary Magdalene in high esteem. The book Crusade Against the Grail by Otto Rahn in the 1930s did much to rekindle interest in the connection between Catharism and the Holy Grail, and painted Parzival as a veiled account of the Cathars. According to this book, and - perhaps one of the many gospels that the Roman They had been buried in the desert, presumably by local monks in views). Simon IV de Montfort, 5th Earl of Leicester, a Northern French Lord led the crusade along with the Papal Legate, the Abbot of Citeaux Arnaud Amalric. Straight away, the ‘Elect’ must have seemed far superior to anything the Roman Church had to offer to followers. But some, By Ken Mondschein DELL, 496 PAGES, $7.99 July 01, 2004 ADMIT IT: You've read The Da Vinci Code. there surrendered. The Grail legend that The Da Vinci Code is based on draws heavily from the book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, a 1982 novel that involves speculation about the Holy Grail in the region of southern France. the more recent novel the The book by John of the Holy Grail. At a time when the Roman Catholic Church was cementing its vice like grip on power in Europe, the rapid spread of Catharism represented a direct threat to the dominance of Rome. Required fields are marked *, All content copyright @ Daniel Adrian Hyde, 70% of young British identify as having no religion. Your email address will not be published. If you want to learn more about these questions from experts like - Home Page, Introduction Many say the Cathars held within their community the Book of Love and the Holy Grail. They did however, pray to God on behalf of believers. French lords began taking over Cathar lands. Not only was the crusade launced against the Cathars, but their culture, religion and belifs were just about wiped out by the inquisition that followed over a period of 300 years. Photographs. Abbot Amalric’s own version of the siege, described in his letter to Pope Innocent III in August 1209 describes 20,000 people as being put to the sword; “While discussions were still going on with the barons about the release of those in the city who were deemed to be Catholics, the servants and other persons of low rank and unarmed attacked the city without waiting for orders from their leaders. So where then does the Holy Grail fit into this backdrop? Only some books of the bible were accepted by the Cathars. Myths and legends apart, the history of Montsegur is in fact both dramatic and mysterious. of the Languedoc, Cathar To add insult to injury, the Cathars refused to pay tithes to Rome. Even the language of the area, Occitan, was reduced to a mere regional dialect. See in the Languedoc, To The Cathars believed in Jesus but only as either an ordinary man who preached the good word or a spiritual allegory that described man’s soul journey in this world. Since the 19th century, the Holy Grail has been linked to various conspiracy theories. Templars. According to Catharic belief, one object of Earth life was to make over the human body as a worthy vehicle for the light of the Holy Spirit (love). They eeked out a living with a manual trade and travelled the countryside preaching. Rahn was convinced that the 13th-century work Parzival by Wolfram von Eschenbach was a veiled account of the Cathars. The book Crusade Against the Grail by Otto Rahn in the 1930s did much to rekindle interest in the connection between Catharism and the Holy Grail, and painted Parzival as a veiled account of the Cathars. Da Vinci Code, Jesus was maried to Mary Magdelene and their I quote a very apt description of the information which their very intense research on the period provided: This pope was one of the most powerful of the medieval Popes, claiming supremacy over most of Europe’s Kings. Era Holy Grail & Excalibur. Saint Dominic established the Dominican Order in the area, probably to replace the Cathar Elect. 447 to 751 C.E.. to protect royal claimants - the lineal descendants of Jesus the Priory Read unlimited* books and audiobooks on the web, iPad, iPhone and Android. A book by John the Evangelist (”The Secret Supper”) was an important Cathar scripture. I could not find any other reference to Mary Magdalene in Guirdham’s work. It is arguable that the actions of Rome started the decline of the region to one of the poorest in Europe. After this great slaughter the whole city was despoiled and burnt…”. Cathars were dualists, believing in a good and bad realms – much like Satan and God. To our amazement, crying “to arms, to arms!”, within the space of two or three hours they crossed the ditches and the walls and Béziers was taken. The Roman Catholic Church called them Albigenses or Cathars (from the Greek Katharoi for “pure ones”). Aaron (brother of Moses); to found a "Holy European Empire" that would become They renounced the world and its material wealth. One Theory, outlined in the book The Holy Blood and the Holy 14. Remanants of this belief can be seen in modern times with scandals surrounding baby homes for women, the attitudes towards unchristened children and falsified death records for children that were actually sold for adaption. Grail is that the term Holy Grail is an error based on a medieval Consider the reformation in Europe in the early sixteenth centurey – the difference between that and Catharism is a few hundred years but more importantly, the reformation had critical mass, probably due to the printing press that allowed for the rapid spread of ideas and thus thwarting the Church’s response of killing off the reformation before it could take hold. The Cathars have been depicted or re-interpreted in popular books, video games, and films such as The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, The Bone Clocks, Labyrinth, Broken Sword 5: The Serpent's Curse, Paulo Coelho's Brida, Bernard Cornwell's The Grail Quest series and Theodore Roszak's Flicker. efficacious as a miracle worker than any other holy relic - such misreading. They people refused and the Bishop left Béziers with only a few of his followers. They were reputed to possess something of extraordinary sacred value – the Holy Grail. How the Holy Grail came to be linked to the Cathars In Cathar documented history there is no record whatsoever that it was a “religion of love” or that Mary Magdalene was their priestess at Montségur, nor was the Holy Grail mentioned. Furthermore, In Jüngerer Titurel (1272) by Albrecht von Scharfenberg, another Grail epic, the first king of the Holy Grail is named Perilla. In 1818, Austrian pseudohistorical writer Joseph von Hammer-Purgstall connected the Grail to contemporary myths surrounding the Knights Templarthat cast the order as a secret society dedicated to mystical knowledge and relics. In any case, a Papal legate, Pierre de Castelnau, was sent to Raymond VI to persuade him to actively tackle the spread of Catharism in 1206. Still, the Cathars ignored Virgin Mary because the purely spiritual Christ had no mother. As the religion grew, bishops were appointed who were only answerable to their own followers. Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln, The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail (New York: Random House, 1982) p. 70. is a hoax launched in the Old Testament to cover-up Jehovah's palace coup (the War in Heaven) and the subsequent exile of Elyon and his Elohim (the … Catholic Church, Languedoc might be more interested in Cathar Country Tours. Instead, followers simply announced their intention to join and were welcomed. It is possible he was distracted by his own problems in ruling the enormous tract of land he owned, with many arguments with commoners on those lands. They did not believe he had been crucified, buried and resurrected. to the Languedoc, Cathars The philosopher and Nazi government official Alfred Rosenberg speaks favourably of the Cathars in The Myth of the Twentieth Century. Almost everything known about the Cathars comes from confessions of “heretics” taken by Catholic clergy during the inquisition which followed the Albigensian Crusade. After the massacre at Béziers, the rest of the Cathar lands fell quickly. There were no formal ceremonies like baptism or mass. the grooming and installing of a "Rex Deus" pretender His Grail castle is called Monsalvat, which is similar to Montségur and has the same meaning: "safe mountain". If Catharism could spread so quickly in Languedoc, it could spread like wildfire over all of Europe. Many books, including the old testament, were outright rejected by the Cathars as false. Perhaps the Holy Grail was a spritual teaching, a spiritual truth that spoke to the people and this was the reason Cathars were treated with such brutality by Rome. Our men spared no one, irrespective of rank, sex or age, and put to the sword almost 20,000 people. the hereditary succession of Mary Magdalene's children). like the Gospel of Thomas were rediscovered in the twentieth century. its military and financialarm - the Knights Quickly outnumbered and surrounded, they retreated through the gates but seizing the opportunity, mercenaries taking part in the crusade stormed through the gates and scaled the unmanned walls after them. Their history is centered around the 12th-13th century but historic documents from Catharism itself are nearly non-existent due to purges carried out by French Lords and the Roman Catholic Church. did not approve. Marching on Béziers, they arrived on July 21st, 2009 where they faced Raymond VI of Toulouse. Or literally the bloodline of Jesus. The Real Holy Grail and the Cathars. San Grale ("Holy Grail") but the Sang Real from Montsegur The story of the Holy Grail begins with Joseph of Arimathea, the member of the Sanhedrin who went to Pontius Pilate for permission to remove Jesus’ body from the cross on Good Friday. descendents became the Merovingian kings of France. Either way, the cup and/or bloodline would be irrelevant to the Cathars because they did not believe that Jesus was divine – he was a preacher spreading the word at … Whereas the Holy Grail was a handed down chalice that belonged to Mary and goes all the way back to Eve. This belief persisted for hundreds of years, stretching through the crusades, the assaults on the Cathars (and other minority religions) and into the witchcraft trials of the 15-16th centuries. His Grail castle is called Monsalvat, which is similar to Montségur and has the same meaning: "safe mountain". A key element in having French Lords march on Languedoc as part of the crusade was the promise from Rome of keeping any lands they captured. The King of France, supposedly the ruler of the Languedoc region in France also – actually wrote to the Pope protesting against this ‘giveaway’ of his lands – but such was the power of Rome that his protests were ignored. Some of the parallels between the Gospel of Mary and Catharism are illustrated below; The extreme violence meted out to the Cathars by Rome was based on a nearly hysterical belief that the Cathars actually represented the teachings of Jesus. BeliefsIt is no surprise that the Roman Catholic Church viewed other religions as at least misguided, but a special hatred was held for catholics who dared to refute the teachings of Rome. Whereas the Holy Grail was a handed down chalice that belonged to Mary and goes all the way back to Eve. It is estimated that upwards of 14,000 could have been killed. Its priests and bishops were threatening people with eternal damnation, required tithes and donations and were sending crusades into the Holy Land. It was imperative that this teaching be stamped out. on the throne of a Greater Israel. The Gospel of Mary was written sometime in the fourth of fifth century. In terms of the question regarding dissident beliefs in the Templar order, this really leaves only two main issues: the alleged connection between the Templars and the allegedly gnostic Holy Grail (or, as von Eschenbach spells it, the Gral), a mysterious head idol and the idol called Baphomet that the Templars were accused of worshipping. The Holy Grail, or San Greal, should have been translated as Sang Real, or Royal Blood, because it referred to the sacred bloodline that supposedly issued from Guillaume de Gellone, and ultimately King David, but which in reality, was understood to represent the descendants of … Castles in the Languedoc, Languedoc The Cathars is a term used to denote people who practised Catharism, a term not used by the Cathars themselves. After the nine Templars originally found it, the next time the gospel surfaced was almost a century and a half later, on March 25, 1244, when the Cathar castle of Montsegur in the Languedoc region of France fell to the pope’s army. Gospels known to the Early and Catharism, Early The Order was later destroyed because they claimed to have some kind of treasure, the undefinable Holy Grail that Starbird and the authors of The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail believed is … Rules were laid down by a council governing the organisation of the religion but in practise it was very much an independent movement with no head. Or literally the bloodline of Jesus. Their objective was to maintain their own power ("Royal Blood"), a reference to the royal blood of David Missions by friars and priests to Languedoc proved unsuccessful in persuading ”heretics” to transfer to the Roman Catholic Church as did councils that were convened to solve the ‘problem’. Catharism first appeared in the Languedoc region of France in the eleventh century. Jesus was its modeler. On a journey to finding spiritual truth and inspiring conscious living. The Legend of the Holy Grail. Alternatively, he may have thought that siding with Rome against the Cathars would have meant untold trouble, given many of the people on his land were Cathars. Medieval Chant of … on the night before the Cathars and their guardians, the Cathars The publication of the early scholarly book Crusade Against the Grail by the young German Otto Rahn in the 1930s rekindled interest in the connection between the Cathars and the Holy Grail, especially in Germany. and hence of Jesus and his progeny. Albigensian Crusade.Pope Innocent III took it upon himself to tackle the growing influence of the Cathars. They were worse than any other religion because they were a threat to the power base of Rome. They did this through the Crusades against the Cathars and by establishing Pierre was assassinated at some point on his journeys to the region and this led to the excommunication of Raymond VI and the ‘seizure’ of his lands by Rome. It is thought that they called themselves Christians while others in the region called them ”Good Neighbours”. Soon after, the Inquisition was established by Saint Dominic and set about rooting out any remaining Cathars and those of any belief alien to the Roman Catholic Church. Jesus, or the thousands of bones attributed to the Blessed Virgin The Book of the Two Principles is the largest surviving work of Cathar literature. It is worth remembering then, that history is written by the victors. The Creation of Adam by Michelangelo – The hidden meaning, Vatican requests to see 1,500 year old bible. men and women could preach), or the ”Elect”. The famous movement of the European Cathars, destroyed by the Roman inquisition in the Middle Ages, causes great interest today. This gospel never made it into the Bible because it lays bare that Jesus was possibly married. It was worse than any Muslim teaching because it directly challenged the notion the Rome was the church of Jesus. According to books like The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail and The Da Vinci Code the secret of the Holy Grail was known to the Cathars, to a secret society known as the Priory of Sion, to the Knights Templar, and to the Abbé Bérenger Saunière, a French priest of Rennes-le-Château in the South of France. Where does the connection between Mary Magdalene, France and the Cathars come from, apart from in Starbird’s A Woman with an Alabaster Jar and The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail by … The Book of Love was an original parchment containing the handwritten text of both Mary Magdalene and Jesus Christ. The Cathars, crusades and the Holy Grail – What really happened. the true Holy Grail (which would prove Desposyni claims and Ebionite And it proved so – Catharism began to spread throughout the Languedoc and threatened to spill over into Italy, Germany and Spain. Within two months of the crusade starting, much of its active fighting had been completed even though the crusade officially went on to last another 20 years. the fourth century when they were instructed to destroy all but At the same time, a French Count, Raymond VI of Toulouse, was notable in his active refusal to help the Roman Church and was seen by Rome as even actively protecting the Cathars. They rejected the notion of churches and the idea of priests and a pope. Meat was forbidden for the Elect as was animal products such as eggs and milk – quiet possibly, the Cathar’s Elect were the first spiritual vegans in Europe. on The Cathars, crusades and the Holy Grail – What really happened. Perhaps even the original version of one of the canonical gospels, Gnostic By Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln . It is equated with the Holy Grail. The Quest for the Holy Grail was a symbolic presentation of Cathar initiation and the Grail itself (which in Wolfram von Eschenbach’s Parzival is a sacred stone) symbolised the Secret Tradition of the Cathars. Not allowing others to dictate to you God’s way – ‘. One thing of particular interest to the authors was the mysterious heretical sect known as the Cathars. Either way, the cup and/or bloodline would be irrelevant to the Cathars because they did not believe that Jesus was divine – he was a preacher spreading the word at best and a biblical story at worst. Santo Grial Caliz Real - Chant of Cathars & Templair Knights - Cathar Music !! The objectives of the Priory were supposedly: Also according to this theory, the Roman That is not to say that they were considered imbued with special powers for they did not absolve, grant or perform special rites such as confession. Spiritual teaching often took place in homes. Do in the Languedoc, Holidays Some of these books we knew of only because of More the Inquisition. than risk the ascendant Christians discovering a work of which they and his wife Mary Magdalene, of King David and of high priest While possible that the Cathars ‘hid’ someone of Jesus’s bloodline, more likely their beliefs were tied up inextricably to preachings attributed to Mary of Magdalene or at the very least, heavily influenced by this Gospel. For many, the Holy Grail is the ‘cup’ that was used by Jesus at the last supper. Christian Church, Roman Those beliefs grew in popularity throughout the region in the twelfth and thirteenth century. Against this theory is the fact that the Holy Grail The bald fact is that we do not know. When it was asked of Abbot of Citeaux how the soldiers should know Catholic from Cathar, he replied; “Kill them all, God will know His own”. The first edition appeared in Germany in 1933 and drew upon Rahn’s account of his explorations of the Pyrenean caves where the heretical Cathar sect sought refuge during the 13th century. It is the great Golgotha of the XXth century, which took place in Siberia and Solovki, in Stalin’s Moscow and Franco’s Spain, on the battlefields of … the next hyperpower and usher in a new order, bringing peace and before it was elaborated by the mainstream Church, or one of the Christian Church.. We know that many Gnostic gospels existed and that the The Elect were men of peace and acceptance. This divinely revealed discourse by John of the Holy Grail is dedicated to the memory of 200 million anonymous martyrs. Instead, Cathars were organised into normal followers and Parfaits / Parfaites (i.e. Bérenger Saunière, Cathars Chant of Templar. to the Languedoc, To On January 16th, 2020 the Hermetic Hour with host Poke Runyon will present a discussion on the controversial themes and symbols of the Medieval Holy Grail legend. There has been much speculation about the mysterious items evacuated In contrast, the Roman Catholic Church was accruing wealth, power and land at an enormous pace. Furthermore, the Gospel of Mary was widely distributed and it’s quiet possible that it reached Frace with fragments of the Gospel being also found in the Nag Hammadi collection and Berlin Gnostic Codex. In his Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Gibbon points prosperity to the world, to establish a messianic Masonic state religion by revealing out that men of culture would burn their whole libraries rather Many people, taking after Dan Brown’s novel, the Da Vinci Code, believe that the Holy Grail was literally the son/daughter of Jesus, who he conceived with his wife, Mary of Magdalene. Catholic Church dedicate great efforts to finding and destroying to engineer the return to the thrones of Europe and Jerusalem The Cathars, like the Gnostics, did not believe one needed priests for that. Crusade Against the Grail is the daring book that popularized the legend of the Cathars and the Holy Grail. Another, much less likely, spiritual treasure that might have been Catholic Church tried to kill off all remnants of Jesus' dynasty in Templar Quest Tours. crusade against the grail the struggle between the cathars the templars and the church of rome Oct 20, 2020 Posted By Frédéric Dard Publishing TEXT ID 09493b7e Online PDF Ebook Epub Library amazonnl selecteer uw cookievoorkeuren we gebruiken cookies en vergelijkbare tools om uw winkelervaring te verbeteren onze services aan te bieden te begrijpen hoe This prompted Pope Innocent III to launch the Albigensian Crusade – interestingly, this was not the first time the Pope had tried to launch a crusade against the Cathars, but the murder of the Papal Legate seemed to have provided the impetus to push the crusade forward. surviving mainstream Christian denunciations of them. that matched the supposed discovery of tens of thousands of other According to this theory, the Holy Grail is not the Read Lucifer, the Cathars, and the Holy Grail by with a free trial. in the Languedoc, Getting According to legend, the Holy Grail was believed to have been entrusted to the Cathars, becoming part of their treasure. They were forbidden from touching the opposite sex and undertook fasts throughout the year. (claimed through the apostolic succession of Peter in contrast to Is it possible that Mary of Magdalene or her children fled to Languedoc to escape the clutches of John the Baptist, founder of the Roman Catholic Church and that the Cathars shielded her descendants from Rome? These relics are clearly bogus. Imprisoned by the Jewish authorities for his proclamation of Jesus’ resurrection, according to the apocryphal Gospel of Nicodemus, Joseph receives the Grail from our Savior to nourish him — then mir… Not a single one has been shown to be genuine, and none is more treasure, it may have been no more than a book or some manuscripts Your email address will not be published. The Book of Love was an original parchment containing the handwritten text of both Mary Magdalene and Jesus Christ. the last supper. The point was to know the Grail not as a cup but as a process. The outstanding thinker, John of the Holy Grail, rehabilitates and comprehends in a new way the phenomenon of the Catharism, which was the spiritual foundation of the European democracy and humanism. Henry Lincoln, on location in the Languedoc, you might be interested A massacre ensued in the town with nobody spared. Michael Costen, The Cathars and the Albigensian Crusades (Manchester University Press, 1997) p. 120. Those that sheltered in the churches were put to the sword. It is known that the Cathars besieged there Many say the Cathars held within their community the Book of Love and the Holy Grail. We will first establish that the entire concept of ?Lucifer the Light bringer? Mary - who, the Pope now assures us, was body assumed into heaven. The Knights of the Crusade quickly followed, realizing that the town had fallen. HOLY BLOOD, HOLY GRAIL . 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